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	<title>Comments on: Finding Solidarity</title>
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		<title>By: UWO defederation petition also being rejected based on simple technicality &#171; Take Back Your School</title>
		<link>http://www.uwogazette.ca/2009/11/13/finding-solidarity/comment-page-1/#comment-2036</link>
		<dc:creator>UWO defederation petition also being rejected based on simple technicality &#171; Take Back Your School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It has been around for many months and has had the attention of the UWO Gazette many times (here, here, here, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It has been around for many months and has had the attention of the UWO Gazette many times (here, here, here, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.uwogazette.ca/2009/11/13/finding-solidarity/comment-page-1/#comment-826</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to point out also, that of course the CFS would have known about the &quot;anti&quot; petition. Federico Carvajal, who is the OGC Chair and Eastern Ontario fieldworker, was here collecting signatures from students. Thats right, a staff member of the CFS was on campus and was flyering the petition. How can they deny knowing about it if they were circulating it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to point out also, that of course the CFS would have known about the &#8220;anti&#8221; petition. Federico Carvajal, who is the OGC Chair and Eastern Ontario fieldworker, was here collecting signatures from students. Thats right, a staff member of the CFS was on campus and was flyering the petition. How can they deny knowing about it if they were circulating it?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.uwogazette.ca/2009/11/13/finding-solidarity/comment-page-1/#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Telfer has been exposed as a hypocrite, we wonder if he will continue his personal attacks rather than debate the issue.

How about it Rick? Why should the CFS continue taking money from poor graduate students in order to &quot;fight poverty&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Telfer has been exposed as a hypocrite, we wonder if he will continue his personal attacks rather than debate the issue.</p>
<p>How about it Rick? Why should the CFS continue taking money from poor graduate students in order to &#8220;fight poverty&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.uwogazette.ca/2009/11/13/finding-solidarity/comment-page-1/#comment-781</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A photo with Telfer with Jack Layton: http://i33.tinypic.com/2yoo5c0.jpg

According to the blog this MUST be evidence of CFS partisanship with the NDP and a master plan to silence all other voices! Shame!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A photo with Telfer with Jack Layton: <a href="http://i33.tinypic.com/2yoo5c0.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i33.tinypic.com/2yoo5c0.jpg</a></p>
<p>According to the blog this MUST be evidence of CFS partisanship with the NDP and a master plan to silence all other voices! Shame!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.uwogazette.ca/2009/11/13/finding-solidarity/comment-page-1/#comment-748</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is THE worst excuse for evidence I have ever read. 

At best, this blog is effective at demonstrating Rick&#039;s hypocrisy as cited by Steve below and http://tinyurl.com/ykfl2hx (re: partisanship) and by infringing on Jonathan&#039;s artistic/intellectual property when Rick claims to fight for protection of Copyright (but as demonstrated by the blog, must not believe in it).

At worst, students are sick of seeing you post this tinyURL on every website/Gazette article. Grow up and finds some facts with merit rather than grasping at straws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is THE worst excuse for evidence I have ever read. </p>
<p>At best, this blog is effective at demonstrating Rick&#8217;s hypocrisy as cited by Steve below and <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ykfl2hx" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ykfl2hx</a> (re: partisanship) and by infringing on Jonathan&#8217;s artistic/intellectual property when Rick claims to fight for protection of Copyright (but as demonstrated by the blog, must not believe in it).</p>
<p>At worst, students are sick of seeing you post this tinyURL on every website/Gazette article. Grow up and finds some facts with merit rather than grasping at straws.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.uwogazette.ca/2009/11/13/finding-solidarity/comment-page-1/#comment-732</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously Rick, why are we discussing political affiliations?

You should be talking about why the CFS should take fees away from poor grad students.  I&#039;m waiting for your justification...

Why should you take our limited monies and spend them on your loopy non-related ideological agenda?

What does protesting the war in Iraq have to do with your mandate as our student representatives? How much more of my money do you need for your pet projects?
http://yfs.ca/section/120</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously Rick, why are we discussing political affiliations?</p>
<p>You should be talking about why the CFS should take fees away from poor grad students.  I&#8217;m waiting for your justification&#8230;</p>
<p>Why should you take our limited monies and spend them on your loopy non-related ideological agenda?</p>
<p>What does protesting the war in Iraq have to do with your mandate as our student representatives? How much more of my money do you need for your pet projects?<br />
<a href="http://yfs.ca/section/120" rel="nofollow">http://yfs.ca/section/120</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.uwogazette.ca/2009/11/13/finding-solidarity/comment-page-1/#comment-731</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess which NDP mouthpiece wrote this?

&quot;Only Jack Layton and the NDP will deliver.  The choice is clear: $50 billion more for the corporations, or $50 billion to improve our society and to ease the burdens of our everyday lives. If you want the same-old, same-old, and if you want to give more money to corporations, then vote Conservative or Liberal. But if you’re sick of the broken promises, and if you’re sick of waiting for all that wealth to magically “trickle down,” then WAIT NO MORE! Elect Jack
Layton as Prime Minister!&quot; -- Rick Telfer, self-characterized non-partisan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess which NDP mouthpiece wrote this?</p>
<p>&#8220;Only Jack Layton and the NDP will deliver.  The choice is clear: $50 billion more for the corporations, or $50 billion to improve our society and to ease the burdens of our everyday lives. If you want the same-old, same-old, and if you want to give more money to corporations, then vote Conservative or Liberal. But if you’re sick of the broken promises, and if you’re sick of waiting for all that wealth to magically “trickle down,” then WAIT NO MORE! Elect Jack<br />
Layton as Prime Minister!&#8221; &#8212; Rick Telfer, self-characterized non-partisan</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.uwogazette.ca/2009/11/13/finding-solidarity/comment-page-1/#comment-730</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, your evidence is lame.  It is a red herring that has nothing to do with the topic of the CFS.  You debate the character of your opponents, rather than the validity of the CFS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, your evidence is lame.  It is a red herring that has nothing to do with the topic of the CFS.  You debate the character of your opponents, rather than the validity of the CFS.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.uwogazette.ca/2009/11/13/finding-solidarity/comment-page-1/#comment-729</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evidence:
http://tinyurl.com/yjj93zv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidence:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yjj93zv" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yjj93zv</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.uwogazette.ca/2009/11/13/finding-solidarity/comment-page-1/#comment-724</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Conservative party activist&quot; is such a straw man attack.  It allows one side to debate and characterize an external factor rather than the issue at hand.

Besides, Telfer should be careful using this technique because he also has partisan connections.  Is the CFS merely a front organization for the NDP?

Telfer is a &quot;prominent NDPer/CCFer at the municipal level&quot;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ontario_CCF/NDP_members

Listed as NDP municipal candidate:
http://members.shaw.ca/alexehng/ndp.html

Contributor to &quot;L.E.F.T.&quot;, &quot;A Western New Democrat Publication&quot;
http://tinyurl.com/yfqj6fq

These links are provided to take &quot;partisanship&quot; off of the table because it is Telfer&#039;s red herring.

Now that we&#039;ve done that we can address the terrible inefficiencies of the CFS as a student &quot;movement&quot;.

Question: How many years has the CFS run drop fees campaigns in Ontario and what has their success rate been?  Have fees dropped?

Also, students should be aware of the empire building that goes on within unaccountable organizations:

http://tinyurl.com/ya6kg2l
http://tinyurl.com/y987ls2
http://tinyurl.com/63lcny

Now, that we&#039;re debating the issue (the CFS) rather than some students who had a summer job working for the Conservative Party, what say you graduate students of Western?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Conservative party activist&#8221; is such a straw man attack.  It allows one side to debate and characterize an external factor rather than the issue at hand.</p>
<p>Besides, Telfer should be careful using this technique because he also has partisan connections.  Is the CFS merely a front organization for the NDP?</p>
<p>Telfer is a &#8220;prominent NDPer/CCFer at the municipal level&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ontario_CCF/NDP_members" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ontario_CCF/NDP_members</a></p>
<p>Listed as NDP municipal candidate:<br />
<a href="http://members.shaw.ca/alexehng/ndp.html" rel="nofollow">http://members.shaw.ca/alexehng/ndp.html</a></p>
<p>Contributor to &#8220;L.E.F.T.&#8221;, &#8220;A Western New Democrat Publication&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yfqj6fq" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yfqj6fq</a></p>
<p>These links are provided to take &#8220;partisanship&#8221; off of the table because it is Telfer&#8217;s red herring.</p>
<p>Now that we&#8217;ve done that we can address the terrible inefficiencies of the CFS as a student &#8220;movement&#8221;.</p>
<p>Question: How many years has the CFS run drop fees campaigns in Ontario and what has their success rate been?  Have fees dropped?</p>
<p>Also, students should be aware of the empire building that goes on within unaccountable organizations:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/ya6kg2l" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ya6kg2l</a><br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/y987ls2" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/y987ls2</a><br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/63lcny" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/63lcny</a></p>
<p>Now, that we&#8217;re debating the issue (the CFS) rather than some students who had a summer job working for the Conservative Party, what say you graduate students of Western?</p>
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